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		<title>By: dculling</title>
		<link>http://www.bhamweekly.com/2008/02/05/presidential-picker/comment-page-1/#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>dculling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K. Whitmire,
You&#039;re saying more investment in Alabama won&#039;t help? Investments in capital is directly related to increased wages. Capital investment increases productivity allowing workers to produce more per hour and thus earn more per hour.

Since Alabama already is apparently attractive to the Auto industry, it will be attractive to those foreign businesses that will relocate to the US. I suspect you would be in a minority if the citizens of Alabama were asked if they would like more foreign Auto industry in your state.

Your low property taxes are probably why you do get the Auto industry that you do. Changing to a state version of the FairTax you could replace property taxes as well. Other states are already considering this so they would be as attractive to business as possible.

Now I&#039;ve shown you a reference about the stability of sales taxes. I guess you need another: http://www.azfairtax.org/resources/govt.pdf
Your problem in Alabama is something else, Pulitzer prize winning editorial or not.

Well here&#039;s info about offshore accounts.
http://www.taxjustice.net/cms/upload/pdf/Price_of_Offshore.pdf

The underground economy does get taxed more under the FairTax than with the current code. A good example would be a drug dealer goes to a masseuse for a massage. With the current system the drug dealer pays no income taxes, but the masseuse does. With the FairTax the drug dealer pays taxes when he pays for the massage and the masseuse pay taxes when she spends her profit.

Anything else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K. Whitmire,<br />
You&#8217;re saying more investment in Alabama won&#8217;t help? Investments in capital is directly related to increased wages. Capital investment increases productivity allowing workers to produce more per hour and thus earn more per hour.</p>
<p>Since Alabama already is apparently attractive to the Auto industry, it will be attractive to those foreign businesses that will relocate to the US. I suspect you would be in a minority if the citizens of Alabama were asked if they would like more foreign Auto industry in your state.</p>
<p>Your low property taxes are probably why you do get the Auto industry that you do. Changing to a state version of the FairTax you could replace property taxes as well. Other states are already considering this so they would be as attractive to business as possible.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ve shown you a reference about the stability of sales taxes. I guess you need another: <a href="http://www.azfairtax.org/resources/govt.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.azfairtax.org/resources/govt.pdf</a><br />
Your problem in Alabama is something else, Pulitzer prize winning editorial or not.</p>
<p>Well here&#8217;s info about offshore accounts.<br />
<a href="http://www.taxjustice.net/cms/upload/pdf/Price_of_Offshore.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.taxjustice.net/cms/upload/pdf/Price_of_Offshore.pdf</a></p>
<p>The underground economy does get taxed more under the FairTax than with the current code. A good example would be a drug dealer goes to a masseuse for a massage. With the current system the drug dealer pays no income taxes, but the masseuse does. With the FairTax the drug dealer pays taxes when he pays for the massage and the masseuse pay taxes when she spends her profit.</p>
<p>Anything else?</p>
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		<title>By: tknight</title>
		<link>http://www.bhamweekly.com/2008/02/05/presidential-picker/comment-page-1/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>tknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alabama must be the only state with an efficient education system. Most are bloated with administrative costs and mandates from the federal government that do little to improve the system.

There is no evidence that supports spending more money per child on education is the answer to improving the systems. Most times it is the system itself that is broken.

More likely than not, the reason your state has shortfalls is because of pet projects, poor projecting by your legislature, bloated administrative salaries, and much spending in useless projects.

Do a wiki search on the Austrian Theory of Business and it may help you develop and understanding of how the Fair Tax will improve Alabama.

Good luck, down there. Hopefully you will take a hard look at the economics of the plan and read the two new books. Please be open-minded, it may be the only hope of restoring a free market economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alabama must be the only state with an efficient education system. Most are bloated with administrative costs and mandates from the federal government that do little to improve the system.</p>
<p>There is no evidence that supports spending more money per child on education is the answer to improving the systems. Most times it is the system itself that is broken.</p>
<p>More likely than not, the reason your state has shortfalls is because of pet projects, poor projecting by your legislature, bloated administrative salaries, and much spending in useless projects.</p>
<p>Do a wiki search on the Austrian Theory of Business and it may help you develop and understanding of how the Fair Tax will improve Alabama.</p>
<p>Good luck, down there. Hopefully you will take a hard look at the economics of the plan and read the two new books. Please be open-minded, it may be the only hope of restoring a free market economy.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Whitmire</title>
		<link>http://www.bhamweekly.com/2008/02/05/presidential-picker/comment-page-1/#comment-466</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Whitmire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much would a BMW plant help Alabama? Now you&#039;re really showing your ignorance on this one. True, we don&#039;t have a BMW plant, but I&#039;m guessing it would help about as much as the Mercedes plant we do have. Or the Honda plant. Or the Hyundai plant. Or the Toyota engine plant. But probably not as much as the world&#039;s largest steel plant that Thyssen Krupp is building north of Mobile.

Manufacturing and unemployment are not problems right now in Alabama. That said, not many people are getting rich.

The problem is that Alabama&#039;s tax structure, which is disproportionately based in sales taxes, is not stable and does not provide sufficient funding for education during economic downturns.

Actually the new tax Alabama does need is a real property tax. If you doubled Alabama&#039;s property taxes, it would still be the lowest in the nation.

Again, these issues are familiar as they are insurmountable. In 1991, the Birmingham News won a Pulitzer in editorial writing for decrying the state&#039;s tax structure. Nice prize, but unfortunately nothing changed.

As far as the 10 trillion in offshore accounts, I buy that about as much as Huckabee&#039;s claim that the income tax is preventing drug dealers and prostitutes from paying taxes. Because that&#039;s drug pushers and hookers are waiting for -- the right tax structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much would a BMW plant help Alabama? Now you&#8217;re really showing your ignorance on this one. True, we don&#8217;t have a BMW plant, but I&#8217;m guessing it would help about as much as the Mercedes plant we do have. Or the Honda plant. Or the Hyundai plant. Or the Toyota engine plant. But probably not as much as the world&#8217;s largest steel plant that Thyssen Krupp is building north of Mobile.</p>
<p>Manufacturing and unemployment are not problems right now in Alabama. That said, not many people are getting rich.</p>
<p>The problem is that Alabama&#8217;s tax structure, which is disproportionately based in sales taxes, is not stable and does not provide sufficient funding for education during economic downturns.</p>
<p>Actually the new tax Alabama does need is a real property tax. If you doubled Alabama&#8217;s property taxes, it would still be the lowest in the nation.</p>
<p>Again, these issues are familiar as they are insurmountable. In 1991, the Birmingham News won a Pulitzer in editorial writing for decrying the state&#8217;s tax structure. Nice prize, but unfortunately nothing changed.</p>
<p>As far as the 10 trillion in offshore accounts, I buy that about as much as Huckabee&#8217;s claim that the income tax is preventing drug dealers and prostitutes from paying taxes. Because that&#8217;s drug pushers and hookers are waiting for &#8212; the right tax structure.</p>
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		<title>By: dculling</title>
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		<dc:creator>dculling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I&#039;m not from Alabama, but economics is pretty much universal. Milton Friedman&#039;s teachings suggests your state&#039;s problem is probably due to government interfering in the free market somewhere. It could very well be the result of the sub-prime mortgage problem which is a direct result of government interference.

The FairTax will allow as free a free market as possible while still supporting a large government. The conservatives get a freer market and the liberals get to keep a big government. Not a bad compromise I say. I&#039;ll fight for smaller government another day, although if we are having great economic growth I&#039;ll probably be too busy to worry about it.

With the passage of the FairTax, 10 trillion American dollars will come back from offshore accounts. That will certainly help Alabama. We can expect a lot of foreign money and businesses to come here too to take advantage of tax free investing. How much would, say, a BMW plant help Alabama?

Great economic growth for all Americans is within our grasp. All we have to do it fight for it and get it passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I&#8217;m not from Alabama, but economics is pretty much universal. Milton Friedman&#8217;s teachings suggests your state&#8217;s problem is probably due to government interfering in the free market somewhere. It could very well be the result of the sub-prime mortgage problem which is a direct result of government interference.</p>
<p>The FairTax will allow as free a free market as possible while still supporting a large government. The conservatives get a freer market and the liberals get to keep a big government. Not a bad compromise I say. I&#8217;ll fight for smaller government another day, although if we are having great economic growth I&#8217;ll probably be too busy to worry about it.</p>
<p>With the passage of the FairTax, 10 trillion American dollars will come back from offshore accounts. That will certainly help Alabama. We can expect a lot of foreign money and businesses to come here too to take advantage of tax free investing. How much would, say, a BMW plant help Alabama?</p>
<p>Great economic growth for all Americans is within our grasp. All we have to do it fight for it and get it passed.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Whitmire</title>
		<link>http://www.bhamweekly.com/2008/02/05/presidential-picker/comment-page-1/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Whitmire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the budget info above is already out of date, and it was based on  Pollyanna projections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the budget info above is already out of date, and it was based on  Pollyanna projections.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Whitmire</title>
		<link>http://www.bhamweekly.com/2008/02/05/presidential-picker/comment-page-1/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Whitmire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over taxation is not the problem, nor are businesses fleeing. In fact, Alabama currently has some of the lowest unemployment rates in the country, and manufacturing jobs are on the rise. Our income tax is relatively low and our property tax virtually nonexistent. Sales taxes, on the other hand, are among the highest in the nation.

The problem is a simple one: When people get the jitters about the economy possibly tanking, they tighten their household budgets. When they don&#039;t spend money, the state doesn&#039;t collect sales taxes.

This is a problem we&#039;ve lived with here for a long time, but special interest groups in Montgomery have prevented anyone from fixing it.

Not to be snide, dculling, but I&#039;m guessing you&#039;re not from Alabama, are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over taxation is not the problem, nor are businesses fleeing. In fact, Alabama currently has some of the lowest unemployment rates in the country, and manufacturing jobs are on the rise. Our income tax is relatively low and our property tax virtually nonexistent. Sales taxes, on the other hand, are among the highest in the nation.</p>
<p>The problem is a simple one: When people get the jitters about the economy possibly tanking, they tighten their household budgets. When they don&#8217;t spend money, the state doesn&#8217;t collect sales taxes.</p>
<p>This is a problem we&#8217;ve lived with here for a long time, but special interest groups in Montgomery have prevented anyone from fixing it.</p>
<p>Not to be snide, dculling, but I&#8217;m guessing you&#8217;re not from Alabama, are you?</p>
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		<title>By: dculling</title>
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		<dc:creator>dculling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main benefit of the FairTax is how it will grow the economy. Dozens and dozens of highly credentialed economists doing 20+ million dollars of research dose not imply half-baked theory. Who says it is? Bartlett, Gale and the President&#039;s Panel on Tax reform have been throughly debunked.

The latest available budget info is here:

http://www.budget.state.al.us/BudDoc2008.pdf

Looks to me like revenues from both the income tax and sales tax are rising. Spending for education is also rising. Is it just not rising enough for you?

I suspect there&#039;s a lot more to the story, perhaps over taxation has chased businesses out of Alabama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main benefit of the FairTax is how it will grow the economy. Dozens and dozens of highly credentialed economists doing 20+ million dollars of research dose not imply half-baked theory. Who says it is? Bartlett, Gale and the President&#8217;s Panel on Tax reform have been throughly debunked.</p>
<p>The latest available budget info is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.budget.state.al.us/BudDoc2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.budget.state.al.us/BudDoc2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>Looks to me like revenues from both the income tax and sales tax are rising. Spending for education is also rising. Is it just not rising enough for you?</p>
<p>I suspect there&#8217;s a lot more to the story, perhaps over taxation has chased businesses out of Alabama?</p>
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		<title>By: K. Whitmire</title>
		<link>http://www.bhamweekly.com/2008/02/05/presidential-picker/comment-page-1/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Whitmire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had this argument several times already, and again, Alabama&#039;s experience trumps half-baked theory.

This year alone, Alabama has a projected $800 million shortfall in its education budget. And why? Because because the economy has crippled our sales taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had this argument several times already, and again, Alabama&#8217;s experience trumps half-baked theory.</p>
<p>This year alone, Alabama has a projected $800 million shortfall in its education budget. And why? Because because the economy has crippled our sales taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: dculling</title>
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		<dc:creator>dculling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually consumption is far more stable a base for taxation then income. Quote from page 32 of:

http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/MacroeconomicAnalysisofFairTax.pdf

&quot;Additionally, since the FairTax is based on consumption, and consumption expenditures are more stable than income earned, the stability from the FairTax revenue stream is further enhanced.&quot;

Since you mentioned education, be advised that it is considered an investment with the FairTax and thus is not taxed.

I&#039;ll be happy to enlighten you about any more misconceptions you may have about the FairTax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually consumption is far more stable a base for taxation then income. Quote from page 32 of:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/MacroeconomicAnalysisofFairTax.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/MacroeconomicAnalysisofFairTax.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Additionally, since the FairTax is based on consumption, and consumption expenditures are more stable than income earned, the stability from the FairTax revenue stream is further enhanced.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since you mentioned education, be advised that it is considered an investment with the FairTax and thus is not taxed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be happy to enlighten you about any more misconceptions you may have about the FairTax.</p>
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