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Posted on May 7th, 2009 in Sports & Leisure, Upon Further Review

Five in Five, No. 4: Just how many national championships does Alabama really have?

By Matt Hooper

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How many national titles can Alabama really lay claim to? Better yet, why is there more than one answer?

How many national titles can Alabama really lay claim to? Better yet, why is there more than one answer?

Is it 17, 12, 7 or none?

The question of how many national championships the University of Alabama football team has won over its 117-year history, as cut-and-dry as it may seem, has baffled fans and experts alike for generations. The debate has undoubtedly sparked innumerable bar fights and other domestic disturbances over the past several decades.

Before I attempt an answer – and I must say that now I’m sailing into dangerous waters with this column – we must examine why such a simple query is turning up so many different results.

First, realize that the NCAA is a voluntary organization that oversees and regulates collegiate athletics at nearly every college and university in the nation. For all the minutiae that the organization handles day-to-day, one thing the NCAA does not do is crown its own Division 1-A football champions – in other words, there’s no NCAA-sponsored postseason tournament or playoff. Instead, they allow independent bodies to carry out that task.

Second, those independent bodies – recognized by the NCAA as “major selectors” – choose their champion at the end of a season based either on poll data, mathematical formulas or other research results. Currently, there are 17 such selectors:

Anderson & Hester, Associated Press, Berryman, Billingsley Report, Congrove Computer Rankings, Colley Matrix, Dunkel System, Football Writers Association of America, Massey College Football Ratings, Matthews Grid Ratings, National Football Foundation, Rothman, Sagarin Ratings, Sporting News, USA Today, Wolfe and, of course, the Bowl Championship Series.

In the past, 22 additional selectors have chosen champions dating back to 1869 but, for some reason or another, are not currently in operation:

Alderson System, Boand System, Casper Whitney, College Football Researchers Association, DeVold System, Dickinson System, Eck Ratings System, Football News, Helms Athletic Foundation, Houlgate System, International News Service, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, New York Times, Parke Davis, Poling System, United Press International, UPI/National Football Foundation, USA Today/CNN, USA Today/ESPN, USA Today/National Football Foundation and Williamson System.

This means that at any given time, anywhere from 10 to 15 or more entities were crowning champions each year. As a consequence, it was rare for all of the selectors to unanimously choose a champion in a particular year. How rare? From 1900 through 2006, only 14 teams won unanimous titles.

To make matters even more confusing, some of the selectors awarded their national championship to teams prior to the postseason bowl games. Others, such as Parke Davis, awarded national championships retroactively in 1933 to teams that played between 1869 and 1932, based on historical research.

So, with that in mind, let’s comb the NCAA archives to determine how many times selectors have chosen Alabama as a national champion (Note: some of the selectors listed by the official NCAA records (below) are not “major selectors”. We’ll sort that out later):

1992: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, FB News, Football Research, FW, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NY Times, Sporting News, UPI/NFF, USA/CNN (Note: Florida St. was crowned by one selector)

1979: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT, FB News, FW, Helms, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF, NY Times, Poling, Sagarin, Sporting News, UPI (Note: USC was crowned by one selector)

1978: AP, FACT, Football Research, FW, Helms, National Championship Foundation, NFF (Note: Oklahoma was crowned by nine selectors, USC by seven)

1977: Football Research (Note: Arkansas was crowned by one selector, Notre Dame by 16 and Texas by two)

1975: Matthews (Note: Arizona State was crowned by two selectors, Ohio State by five and Oklahoma by 13)

1973: Berryman, UPI
(Note: Michigan was chosen by two selectors, Notre Dame by six, Ohio State by three and Oklahoma by five)

1966: Berryman (Note: Michigan State was chosen by four selectors, Notre Dame by 14)

1965: AP, Billingsley, Football Research, FW, National Championship Foundation
(Note: Michigan State was crowned by 11 selectors)

1964: AP, Berryman, Litkenhous, UPI
(Note: Arkansas was chosen by six selectors, Michigan by one)

1962: Billingsley (Note: LSU and Mississippi were chosen by one selector each, USC by 14)

1961: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FB News, Football Research, Helms, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, NFF, Sagarin, UPI, Williamson (Note: Ohio State was chosen by two selectors)

1945: National Championship Foundation
(Note: Army was crowned by 14 selectors)

1941: Houlgate (Note: Minnesota was chosen by 10 selectors, Texas by two)

1934: Dunkel, Houlgate, Poling, Williamson
(Note: Minnesota was chosen by seven selectors)

1930: Football Research, Parke Davis
(Note: Notre Dame was chosen by nine selectors)

1926: Billingsley, Football Research, Helms, National Championship Foundation, Poling
(Note: Lafayette was chosen by one selector, Navy by two and Stanford by three)

1925: Billingsley, Boand, Football Research, Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation, Poling (Note: Dartmouth was chosen by two selectors)

That makes 17 national championships officially credited to Alabama by NCAA-approved selectors. Most hardcore Alabama fans will stop reading right here.

Should you wish to begin eliminating titles, start with the 1977 crown awarded by Football Research, which is not recognized as a “major selector.” The 1977 Tide finished the season 11-1 with an SEC title, but Notre Dame (who also finished 11-1) beat the No. 1 ranked team in the nation (Texas) in the Cotton Bowl.

So now, Alabama has 16 factually legitimate national championships from major selectors. But we can still whittle the total down.

Be it known that the University of Alabama itself only recognizes 12 official national championships: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979 and 1992.

That leaves out the 1966 team (which finished 11-0 and was selected by Berryman), the 1945 team (10-0 and co-selected with Army by National Championship Foundation), the 1962 team (10-1 and selected by Billingsley), the 1975 team (11-1 and co-selected with Ohio State by Matthews) and the aforementioned 1977 team.

Of the “Other Five”, as the University refers to them, only the 1966 team is seriously considered a top contender to be the Tide’s 13th national champion.

Of course, the 12 official championships are not without controversy, either. The 1978 team finished in a three-way tie at 11-1 with USC and Oklahoma. Somehow, all three teams won their bowl games, but none of the bowls pitted any of the three teams against each other.

The 1973 Tide lost to Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl, yet somehow ended up splitting the title with the Irish anyway.

The 1965 team finished the season with a 9-1-1 record, capturing many selectors by default after No. 1 Michigan State, No. 2 Arkansas and No. 3 Nebraska all lost in postseason action. Alabama, ranked No. 4 at the time, upset Nebraska in the Orange Bowl.

The 1964 team claimed four selectors after posting a 10-1-0 record. However, Arkansas was also crowned by four major selectors and finished the year undefeated. The Tide lost to Texas in their bowl game that season after many of the selectors had awarded their trophies prior to postseason play.

And in 1941 Alabama finished 9-2 under Frank Thomas, but somehow claimed a major selector’s title despite Minnesota’s 8-0 final record.

If those five iffy national championships are taken away from the bottom line, that leaves Alabama with seven titles. Seven is the number recognized by many major national media outlets, including ESPN.

Of course, there are a few radicals out there who claim that the NCAA system is so fraught with inaccuracy and inconsistency that none of the championships, especially those awarded prior to the BCS era in 1998, can be considered legitimate. That would leave Alabama, one of the most historically significant sports programs in our nation’s history, without a national championship to its credit.

Now, I won’t go so far as to stand behind that theory. But this idea of the NCAA acting as a failed state is intriguing when answering a question as loaded as “How many titles does Alabama legitimately hold?”

Fans scoff at the idea of Bama’s 17 national championships, arguing that many of them were awarded arbitrarily. Modern-day fans laugh aloud when told that lowly Princeton, not Alabama or Notre Dame, actually holds the record for most football national championships (28 from major selectors). But if we hold the old way of doing things in such low regard – non-NCAA entities arbitrarily awarding championships to teams based on factors that have little to do with what happens on the field of play – what are we to make of the current BCS system?

In 50 years, will we look back and wonder why that Boise State team in 2006 wasn’t awarded a national championship? What about Utah in 2008? What about Auburn in 2004? Are we not still using archaic and arbitrary means to decide our major college football champions?

So to answer the question: Alabama has 17 national championships. Princeton has 28. Auburn has four. As long this sport is governed by a subjective championship system, its fans have a right to be equally subjective.

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  • MadisonU
    12 is the answer. We have 12 National Championships. I didn't read the article.

    Okay, I did, but the the logical and rational argument that 7 Nat'l Championships is a more accurate number created cognitive dissonance, causing my brain to short circuit, and I just started growling out the word "Bear!" over and over again.

    Oddly, though I've lived in Alabama all my life and been a 'Bama fan for twice as long as that (though not a die hard...sports trivia is my worst trivia subject, never could pick it up), I don't really recall a serious conversation about this matter.

    I do have a strange recollection of hearing something about this on the playground in elementary school, but Jeremy Vaughan said it and I shrugged it off because his whole family went to Auburn, so I knew they weren't educated.

    (Edit to say that I used Jeremy and his family for a joke here--The Vaughans are well-educated folks and wonderful people at that)
  • AUman52
    FINALLY someone spills the TRUTH and stops inflating the Bama Homers' heads even further! I simply laugh each and every time a Bamer crows about their "12" and shake my head at the over inflated ego most of them have. As soon as an Auburn person mentions that if we counted they way Bama counted, we would have 4 or 5, they laugh at us but they don't hesitate to continue to stick to their "12". Good job of spitting out the truth, even though all the Bamers will be in an uproar if they take the time to read this !!!!
  • rna
    So, over the last 117 years there have been roughly 472 national championships awarded in football, and Alabama has won 17 of those 472 (3.6%, or under the current BCS system, it would average about one every 30 years). All we want is their obnoxious delusional fans to SHUT UP about it!
  • td37bama1
    Hey aubies it doesnt really matter to us BAMMERS! you can count them as you wish but it doesnt change anything. In the end as always your gonna have to live with the truth as it really is. Bama is better than you. They have been and always will be!!!!! LMAO at auburn, a second rate red headed step child with penis envy,once a loser always a loser. So take your little winey a$$ home and cry to your all your small minded little snotty nosed winey a$$ed wimpy ,crybaby, BAMA wannabe cow college barners!! Your all just pitful!!!! BAMA has more national titles more conferance titles more bowl appearances than auburn, Historical information backs up these claims and is kept for a reason numbnut! So just because you cant match up in anyway form or fashion with Bama or any other elete football program in the country for that matter,it doesnt erase the cold hard facts. So you see auburn A.K.A the sevenup (NEVER HAD IT NEVER WILL) tigers!! When will you weak narrow minded fools ever learn!!It doesnt make you better than ALABAMA by trying to erase,sully,or diminish BAMA'S Achievements. This is why you barners will always be the other university ,the lesser of, the redheaded bucked tooth snotty nosed winey step sister!!!! you barners are so caught up with all that Alabama has achieved that you fail to remember that auburn had the same times and opportunities to achive the same goals! But you havent have you.SOB! SOB! So you see ,you cannot talk in this circle of such lofty Goals, because you have not accomplished them and Nobody in the world of college football acknowledges auburn as a top of the class contender neither do we BAMMERS!!! WE ARE THE CONTENDERS YOU ARE THE PRETENDERS!! These are the facts and we are content to live with them!! ROLL TIDE ROLL! SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! thats right, go on home now with your little striped tail tucked between your legs, go to bed, try to sleep and remember to leave the lights and be afraid! be very afraid because the BAMMERMAN is always under your bed in your closet in your head!! And come November your worst nightmare is going to be relived again, BAMA IS BETTER THAN you!! This is your DESTINY this is your Lousy Pathetic Life! ROLL DAMN TIDE!!! 4/EVER
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