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		<title>By: bilutza</title>
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		<dc:creator>bilutza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claiborne&#039;s books and views have come under criticism from some Evangelical Christians for his theology (which some have likened to the Social Gospel), his disdain of laissez-faire capitalism, a perceived support of socialism, and his radical political views.&lt;a rel=&quot;follow&quot;href=&quot;http://www.sanatatesexuala.ro/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;marire sani&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claiborne&#39;s books and views have come under criticism from some Evangelical Christians for his theology (which some have likened to the Social Gospel), his disdain of laissez-faire capitalism, a perceived support of socialism, and his radical political views.<a rel="follow"href="http://www.sanatatesexuala.ro/" rel="nofollow">marire sani</a></p>
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		<title>By: RyanMcAroni</title>
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		<dc:creator>RyanMcAroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!!! freedon2009:&quot;Jesus was a Capitalist he was always talking about be friutful and multiply.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you have completely put a box around Christ in Matthew 19 he states to the rich young man: &quot;All these I have kept,&quot; the young man said. &quot;What do I still lack?&quot; Jesus answered, &quot;If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please explain how this is capitalistic and not socialistic!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!!! freedon2009:&#8221;Jesus was a Capitalist he was always talking about be friutful and multiply.&#8221;</p>
<p>you have completely put a box around Christ in Matthew 19 he states to the rich young man: &#8220;All these I have kept,&#8221; the young man said. &#8220;What do I still lack?&#8221; Jesus answered, &#8220;If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please explain how this is capitalistic and not socialistic!?!</p>
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		<title>By: RyanMcAroni</title>
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		<dc:creator>RyanMcAroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stating that someone or something is wrong does absolutely nothing. If you&#039;re going to make comments like this please state why they are &quot;wrong&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, you think the government didn&#039;t try to free Jesus multiple times? You think that mere corporate ceos seeking profit are doing a good job of taking care of the sick and ill? You think our country has been/ is going in the right direction with our health care policies/ health care companies? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think Almoderate has made great points in his comment, but then we have to put up with people like you disputing those points with their worthless comments. I know you have an opinion on the issue, but your comment has to have some substance to it for it to mean anything. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My thoughts on the issue come from the bible: &lt;br&gt;James 1:27 &quot;Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;James 2 &quot;My brothers, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ, don&#039;t show favoritism. Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in shabby clothes also comes in. If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, &quot;Here&#039;s a good seat for you,&quot; but say to the poor man, &quot;You stand there&quot; or &quot;Sit on the floor by my feet,&quot; have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?&lt;br&gt;Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong?&lt;br&gt;If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, &quot;Love your neighbor as yourself,&quot; you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. For he who said, &quot;Do not commit adultery,&quot; also said, &quot;Do not murder.&quot; If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!&lt;br&gt;What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, &quot;Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed,&quot; but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.&lt;br&gt;But someone will say, &quot;You have faith; I have deeds.&quot; &lt;br&gt;      Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.&lt;br&gt;You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. And the scripture was fulfilled that says, &quot;Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,&quot; and he was called God&#039;s friend. You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stating that someone or something is wrong does absolutely nothing. If you&#39;re going to make comments like this please state why they are &#8220;wrong&#8221;. </p>
<p>So, you think the government didn&#39;t try to free Jesus multiple times? You think that mere corporate ceos seeking profit are doing a good job of taking care of the sick and ill? You think our country has been/ is going in the right direction with our health care policies/ health care companies? </p>
<p>I think Almoderate has made great points in his comment, but then we have to put up with people like you disputing those points with their worthless comments. I know you have an opinion on the issue, but your comment has to have some substance to it for it to mean anything. </p>
<p>My thoughts on the issue come from the bible: <br />James 1:27 &#8220;Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>James 2 &#8220;My brothers, as believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ, don&#39;t show favoritism. Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in shabby clothes also comes in. If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, &#8220;Here&#39;s a good seat for you,&#8221; but say to the poor man, &#8220;You stand there&#8221; or &#8220;Sit on the floor by my feet,&#8221; have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?<br />Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong?<br />If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, &#8220;Love your neighbor as yourself,&#8221; you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. For he who said, &#8220;Do not commit adultery,&#8221; also said, &#8220;Do not murder.&#8221; If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.</p>
<p>Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!<br />What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, &#8220;Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed,&#8221; but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.<br />But someone will say, &#8220;You have faith; I have deeds.&#8221; <br />      Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.<br />You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.</p>
<p>You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. And the scripture was fulfilled that says, &#8220;Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,&#8221; and he was called God&#39;s friend. You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.</p>
<p>In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedom2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, so since you dont believe in god(S) you MUST believe in evolution!&lt;br&gt;If you truly believed that, you would want evolution to take place in human life naturaly, there is no morality in evolution. You either survive or you don&#039;t. So, since you want the government to take control over your life, you are not practicing true evolution. So, stop using religious morality as an excuse that government should provide healthcare. You cannot have it both ways. Be free or die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, so since you dont believe in god(S) you MUST believe in evolution!<br />If you truly believed that, you would want evolution to take place in human life naturaly, there is no morality in evolution. You either survive or you don&#39;t. So, since you want the government to take control over your life, you are not practicing true evolution. So, stop using religious morality as an excuse that government should provide healthcare. You cannot have it both ways. Be free or die.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedom2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will not, it has never in any other country. Your check is worthless because you pay for social security you will never get (tax) you pay state and federal taxes. (tax) When you take your money and go buy something you pay more taxes. You pay taxes on your bills, you pay taxes on everything but medical care. Wait, if the bill passes; there is a new medical device tax that include new taxes on toothbrushes, tampons, condoms, wheel chairs, breast implants, surgeries, and thats just the start. We are screwed and the sad thing is the poor will suffer the most.&lt;br&gt;Irony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will not, it has never in any other country. Your check is worthless because you pay for social security you will never get (tax) you pay state and federal taxes. (tax) When you take your money and go buy something you pay more taxes. You pay taxes on your bills, you pay taxes on everything but medical care. Wait, if the bill passes; there is a new medical device tax that include new taxes on toothbrushes, tampons, condoms, wheel chairs, breast implants, surgeries, and thats just the start. We are screwed and the sad thing is the poor will suffer the most.<br />Irony</p>
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		<title>By: freedom2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedom2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to read the Bible. You are sadly wrong.</description>
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		<title>By: freedom2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedom2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greed, um does that include those who want the government to steal from people who make wealth, make jobs, and pay the tax, then give it to those who do not do anything but cry and wait until someone comes? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;YEP.....you support slavery, taking from people who work and give to those who do nothing. You will alwasy be poor because it is the way you live your live. If you believe in god, or evolution you would want to be free from the men who rule you.&lt;br&gt;You will see shortly that thier will be no jobs in this country from his policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greed, um does that include those who want the government to steal from people who make wealth, make jobs, and pay the tax, then give it to those who do not do anything but cry and wait until someone comes? </p>
<p>YEP&#8230;..you support slavery, taking from people who work and give to those who do nothing. You will alwasy be poor because it is the way you live your live. If you believe in god, or evolution you would want to be free from the men who rule you.<br />You will see shortly that thier will be no jobs in this country from his policies.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedom2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um so then why do you Like Obama? He and his General Electric pal on his economic advisory panel are fooling you.&lt;br&gt;GE owns NBC, MSNBC and many other channels and they condition you into believing what they want you to know. GE is set to make billions off of Cap and Tax, Healthcare Reform, Bailouts and that is just the start. You will get nothing from it but less healthcare, more taxes on you, and misery. You will not even get healthcare to after 3 years from now. You are clueless. &lt;br&gt;I would clearly not be in your camp. You can have it; the men you do not know, who own the media you believe, who tell you what is best for you. You will see that the corporations will get richer while the government takes more from you. Its priceless. Obama has raised cig taxes and when the health care bill pass you will be paying taxes on condoms, tampons and toothbrushes just to say a few. Read the healthcare bill. LOL&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SUCKER....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um so then why do you Like Obama? He and his General Electric pal on his economic advisory panel are fooling you.<br />GE owns NBC, MSNBC and many other channels and they condition you into believing what they want you to know. GE is set to make billions off of Cap and Tax, Healthcare Reform, Bailouts and that is just the start. You will get nothing from it but less healthcare, more taxes on you, and misery. You will not even get healthcare to after 3 years from now. You are clueless. <br />I would clearly not be in your camp. You can have it; the men you do not know, who own the media you believe, who tell you what is best for you. You will see that the corporations will get richer while the government takes more from you. Its priceless. Obama has raised cig taxes and when the health care bill pass you will be paying taxes on condoms, tampons and toothbrushes just to say a few. Read the healthcare bill. LOL</p>
<p>SUCKER&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedom2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus was not a socialist. He in fact never wanted government to do anything, he defied the senate, the king, and the Roman emporer and many others. He did not want government to rule the minds of man. He in fact wanted people to openly and freely give thier own money and time to serve thier community. That is with out government Interference. He said do good to others and his father (GOD) will provide, um.....thats not government. Jesus would never approve of government&#039;s owning people, that would violate every thing he teaches.&lt;br&gt;He also said that people should earn thier own way through life &quot;with the sweat of thier brow&quot;.&lt;br&gt;Jesus was a Capitalist he was always talking about be friutful and multiply. Socialism just steal and destroys wealth. &lt;br&gt;Try again my friend, stop trying to tell people your lies about Christianity. Obama is not Jesus and he his a socialist. Remember Hitler claimed to be a Christian. Yep. PEOPLE PLEASE READ AND LEARN HISTORY FOR YOURSELF, AND STOP BELIEVING LIES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus was not a socialist. He in fact never wanted government to do anything, he defied the senate, the king, and the Roman emporer and many others. He did not want government to rule the minds of man. He in fact wanted people to openly and freely give thier own money and time to serve thier community. That is with out government Interference. He said do good to others and his father (GOD) will provide, um&#8230;..thats not government. Jesus would never approve of government&#39;s owning people, that would violate every thing he teaches.<br />He also said that people should earn thier own way through life &#8220;with the sweat of thier brow&#8221;.<br />Jesus was a Capitalist he was always talking about be friutful and multiply. Socialism just steal and destroys wealth. <br />Try again my friend, stop trying to tell people your lies about Christianity. Obama is not Jesus and he his a socialist. Remember Hitler claimed to be a Christian. Yep. PEOPLE PLEASE READ AND LEARN HISTORY FOR YOURSELF, AND STOP BELIEVING LIES.</p>
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		<title>By: murasaki1</title>
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		<dc:creator>murasaki1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand some people here.  I see the same tired arguments of government extortion, etc.  The bottom line is that people are sick, and you&#039;re not making the best choice you could to heal them.  Lacking the training or will to get up off your easy chair, saying your own work and your own problems are too hard to let you do anything about it personally, you won&#039;t let your elected officials do something about it in your name either.  Jesus didn&#039;t have much good to say about rich men, moneychangers, etc., and those same men (health insurers) are ignoring His will by denying the sick what they say they&#039;re providing.  Worried about zero budget?  Well, here&#039;s a veteran saying maybe we could do without a few half billion dollar bombers instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t understand some people here.  I see the same tired arguments of government extortion, etc.  The bottom line is that people are sick, and you&#39;re not making the best choice you could to heal them.  Lacking the training or will to get up off your easy chair, saying your own work and your own problems are too hard to let you do anything about it personally, you won&#39;t let your elected officials do something about it in your name either.  Jesus didn&#39;t have much good to say about rich men, moneychangers, etc., and those same men (health insurers) are ignoring His will by denying the sick what they say they&#39;re providing.  Worried about zero budget?  Well, here&#39;s a veteran saying maybe we could do without a few half billion dollar bombers instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Nednetterville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nednetterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 06:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Jesus&#039; famous parable, The Good Samaritan paid for the care of the stranger he found beaten and left to die by the side of the road with his own money. He most assuredly did not resort to OPM (sounds like opium, is equally addicting, stand for other people&#039;s money) to pay the innkeeper. Jesus healed on his own dime, not money forcibly collected from others. Health care paid with OPM is stealing, because there is no difference between extortion collected by the mob and taxes collected by the state, except that the mob&#039;s collection goons risk jail for their crime whereas tax collectors are given immunity from prosecution by their government employer. It is a safe bet that Jesus would endorse his Father&#039;s unequivocal command, Thou shall not steal! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Jesus&#39; famous parable, The Good Samaritan paid for the care of the stranger he found beaten and left to die by the side of the road with his own money. He most assuredly did not resort to OPM (sounds like opium, is equally addicting, stand for other people&#39;s money) to pay the innkeeper. Jesus healed on his own dime, not money forcibly collected from others. Health care paid with OPM is stealing, because there is no difference between extortion collected by the mob and taxes collected by the state, except that the mob&#39;s collection goons risk jail for their crime whereas tax collectors are given immunity from prosecution by their government employer. It is a safe bet that Jesus would endorse his Father&#39;s unequivocal command, Thou shall not steal! <a href="http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nednetterville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nednetterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 06:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Jesus&#039; famous parable, The Good Samaritan paid for the care of the stranger he found beaten and left to die by the side of the road with his own money. He most assuredly did not resort to OPM (sounds like opium, is equally addicting, stand for other people&#039;s money) to pay the innkeeper. Jesus healed on his own dime, not money forcibly collected from others. Health care paid with OPM is stealing, because there is no difference between extortion collected by the mob and taxes collected by the state, except that the mob&#039;s collection goons risk jail for their crime whereas tax collectors are given immunity from prosecution by their government employer. It is a safe bet that Jesus would endorse his Father&#039;s unequivocal command, Thou shall not steal! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Jesus&#39; famous parable, The Good Samaritan paid for the care of the stranger he found beaten and left to die by the side of the road with his own money. He most assuredly did not resort to OPM (sounds like opium, is equally addicting, stand for other people&#39;s money) to pay the innkeeper. Jesus healed on his own dime, not money forcibly collected from others. Health care paid with OPM is stealing, because there is no difference between extortion collected by the mob and taxes collected by the state, except that the mob&#39;s collection goons risk jail for their crime whereas tax collectors are given immunity from prosecution by their government employer. It is a safe bet that Jesus would endorse his Father&#39;s unequivocal command, Thou shall not steal! <a href="http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Paul Grasser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Paul Grasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>government is not the problem without government we have no order give unto ceaser the things that are ceasers, give unto God the things that are Gods.. we have become a country of greed all I hear from those opposed to any change is what will it cost me... prerhaps your soul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>government is not the problem without government we have no order give unto ceaser the things that are ceasers, give unto God the things that are Gods.. we have become a country of greed all I hear from those opposed to any change is what will it cost me&#8230; prerhaps your soul</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Paul Grasser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Paul Grasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article please read and share</description>
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		<title>By: johnbrewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnbrewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So anybody that has a difference of opinion to yours is a barbarian, however, you do not discriminate against them?  You are attempting to stereotype ideological opponents on a variety of topics into a single sub-respectable class of people.  From the left we are bombarded with the phrase &quot;power in diversity&quot;. Yet you seem to want to gather all differences of yours into a group that is to be disdained, scorned, and hated.    It is easy for someone to reject an intelligent thought if they have pre-conceived notion about its source.  That&#039;s called discrimination. An intelligent person can listen to an opinion and decide whether to accept or reject based on its own merit and regardless of its source.  That is the true power of diversity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So anybody that has a difference of opinion to yours is a barbarian, however, you do not discriminate against them?  You are attempting to stereotype ideological opponents on a variety of topics into a single sub-respectable class of people.  From the left we are bombarded with the phrase &#8220;power in diversity&#8221;. Yet you seem to want to gather all differences of yours into a group that is to be disdained, scorned, and hated.    It is easy for someone to reject an intelligent thought if they have pre-conceived notion about its source.  That&#39;s called discrimination. An intelligent person can listen to an opinion and decide whether to accept or reject based on its own merit and regardless of its source.  That is the true power of diversity.</p>
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		<title>By: bluesharp</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluesharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There&#039;s a fight in is this country over civilization. Some of us believe in science, analytical thought, personal freedoms,  rule of law and a common morality that does not discriminate against those who are outside our group. We don&#039;t like violence,  even if we believe that war is sometimes necessary. Our opponents who don&#039;t believe in these things are basically barbarians. &lt;br&gt;They hate science, love fundamentalist religon, disdain the rule of law and see no problem with changing standards of morality for those seen as others - whether it&#039;s torturing Muslims or denying marriage to gay couples. They actually like war, and don&#039;t  like diplomacy. There are a lot of these people.&quot;&lt;br&gt;                                                                                  --  G Powell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There&#39;s a fight in is this country over civilization. Some of us believe in science, analytical thought, personal freedoms,  rule of law and a common morality that does not discriminate against those who are outside our group. We don&#39;t like violence,  even if we believe that war is sometimes necessary. Our opponents who don&#39;t believe in these things are basically barbarians. <br />They hate science, love fundamentalist religon, disdain the rule of law and see no problem with changing standards of morality for those seen as others &#8211; whether it&#39;s torturing Muslims or denying marriage to gay couples. They actually like war, and don&#39;t  like diplomacy. There are a lot of these people.&#8221;<br />                                                                                  &#8212;  G Powell</p>
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		<title>By: bluesharp</title>
		<link>http://www.bhamweekly.com/2009/09/04/so-what-would-jesus-do-about-health-care-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-3405</link>
		<dc:creator>bluesharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God&#039;s name on one&#039;s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I&#039;m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in &#039;A,&#039; &#039;B,&#039; &#039;C,&#039; and &#039;D.&#039; Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of &#039;conservatism.&#039; &quot;&lt;br&gt;                                                                                           - Barry Goldwater</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God&#39;s name on one&#39;s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I&#39;m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in &#39;A,&#39; &#39;B,&#39; &#39;C,&#39; and &#39;D.&#39; Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of &#39;conservatism.&#39; &#8220;<br />                                                                                           &#8211; Barry Goldwater</p>
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		<title>By: johnbrewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnbrewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government is amoral by definition beholden to special interest groups and not the people as you claim.   It was a special interest group (the Pharisees) that strongly encouraged the government (Rome) to crucify Jesus.  There are some corrupt corporations, but are you seriously saying that the desire to make an honest profit is immoral? Corporations spend billions every year for various charities.  It that also evil?  To answer your question, I honestly doubt that Jesus would choose either.  I&#039;m not about to put words in the mouth of Jesus. To contend that Jesus would be in favor of a government run healthcare system assumes that you can speak knowing the heart and mind of Jesus.  I&#039;m not that arrogant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government is amoral by definition beholden to special interest groups and not the people as you claim.   It was a special interest group (the Pharisees) that strongly encouraged the government (Rome) to crucify Jesus.  There are some corrupt corporations, but are you seriously saying that the desire to make an honest profit is immoral? Corporations spend billions every year for various charities.  It that also evil?  To answer your question, I honestly doubt that Jesus would choose either.  I&#39;m not about to put words in the mouth of Jesus. To contend that Jesus would be in favor of a government run healthcare system assumes that you can speak knowing the heart and mind of Jesus.  I&#39;m not that arrogant.</p>
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		<title>By: johnbrewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnbrewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government is amoral by definition beholden to special interest groups and not the people as you claim.   It was a special interest group (the Pharisees) that strongly encouraged the government (Rome) to crucify Jesus.  There are some corrupt corporations, but are you seriously saying that the desire to make an honest profit is immoral? Corporations spend billions every year for various charities.  It that also evil?  To answer your question, I honestly doubt that Jesus would choose either.  I&#039;m not about to put words in the mouth of Jesus. To contend that Jesus would be in favor of a government run healthcare system assumes that you can speak knowing the heart and mind of Jesus.  I&#039;m not that arrogant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government is amoral by definition beholden to special interest groups and not the people as you claim.   It was a special interest group (the Pharisees) that strongly encouraged the government (Rome) to crucify Jesus.  There are some corrupt corporations, but are you seriously saying that the desire to make an honest profit is immoral? Corporations spend billions every year for various charities.  It that also evil?  To answer your question, I honestly doubt that Jesus would choose either.  I&#39;m not about to put words in the mouth of Jesus. To contend that Jesus would be in favor of a government run healthcare system assumes that you can speak knowing the heart and mind of Jesus.  I&#39;m not that arrogant.</p>
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		<title>By: bluesharp</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluesharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last I checked , we ARE the Government....a self-governed people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Corporations are amoral by definition and beholden only to profit, CEO yachts &amp; castles and shareholders, whose only concern is profit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ask yourself...Which camp would Jesus choose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last I checked , we ARE the Government&#8230;.a self-governed people.</p>
<p>Corporations are amoral by definition and beholden only to profit, CEO yachts &#038; castles and shareholders, whose only concern is profit.</p>
<p>Ask yourself&#8230;Which camp would Jesus choose?</p>
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